Raw 11/23 Thoughts (SPOILERS if youve not seen it)

[MTMT]

Sheamus is already getting a title shot? Really?

I realize that Vince and Triple H have a hard-on for the guy... but can he at least have a few more midcard feuds first? Hell, the only "long-lasting" feuds were with Jamie Noble and Goldust. Seriously. Put him up against Mark Henry or MVP. Give him a solid midcard run for at least a few months. Given the amount of people he's faced thus far, I don't view him as a threat yet.

Don't get me wrong, I can tell he's got a TON of potential, and I have no doubt that he'll be a deserving champion some day... but, fuck, make him pay his dues first.

DX vs. Jerishow... should be good. HBK vs. Jericho was a classic. Hopefully Show can keep healthy (rumor has it he's getting knee surgery).

I didn't see the show, but I read the results... I couldn't help but smile at the thought of Vince and The Body doing commentary. And then, of course, I thought, "WWE stole from us again!"

Kofi got the upperhand against Orton again... I'm guessing they're going to go for a one-on-one match at the next PPV. I'd guess Orton will win that one, since Kofi has been dominating the feud thus far, and they don't want to make one of their top heels look too weak. I think a Sheamus vs. Kofi feud will be in the works, once both are done with Cena and Orton, respectively. Now that both are Raw's rising stars, it'll make sense.

Speaking of Kofi... I get the feeling he's going to be the next Money in the Bank winner. I would love to see him as heavyweight champ... but only if they book him as a proper underdog champion. Rey Mysterio, Jeff Hardy, and CM Punk were all booked horribly as the underdog champ. Hardy and Punk both had title reigns that lasted far too short, and Rey lost more non-title matches than he won title matches. It's great to see the title on guys that aren't the "traditional" heavyweight champions- smaller, less bulky, quicker... but again, make them look strong.

Considering my St. Louis roots, I was thrilled to see Orton vs. Bourne... though not so thrilled that it was practically a squash match. I'd love to see a proper feud from these two... Bourne is just fun as hell to watch. I doubt he'd be a believable heavyweight champ, but I could see him pull a US/IC Title run someday. Bourne's a great example of why I am generally more interested in midcard wrestlers than the main eventers. It feels like they work harder, and put on better matches.

That's all I've got...

[AWA Staff]

I'm not doubting Sheamus. Not at all. In fact, I kinda like him thus-far. But, I'm afraid he's only getting his push because Kofi is going to be busy with Orton....and because Vince has fucked up big time.

Vince hasn't built up enough young talent to fill in when his 10yr+ vets get injured. Now we get this.

And we all knew Evan Bourne was going to be slaughtered....it's nothing new. I'd like to see DX get the tag titles and show up on Smackdown to fued with some of them a bit but....I don't think they'll leave RAW.

And next week's Midget court is going to blow cock and balls, much like Luke does.

Why does Cena even wrestle on RAW? We all know he's going to get beat up, then within 10 seconds, hit his Prot-plex, Attitude Adjustment, and get the pin. I hate Cena.

I wish Dolph vs Kofi would have gotten a little more time. It was a pretty good match. I hope they both get put in MITB at WrestleMania 26. Although, I think we all would be willing to make a bet that Kofi wins MITB.....can we finally see a black WWE Champion? Although, MITB is like a Heel Curse. Edge turned heel, CM Punk turned heel, would Kofi? I hope not!

RAW was pretty good though. I did enjoy it. I love Jesse Ventura. Him and Vince were GREAT together!!!

However, next week shall suck

[MTMT]

Edge was already heel when he won MITB... and Punk's first MITB was pure face.

[AWA Staff]

Uh yeah but....where is Punk now?

A HEEL! Shut up Mittens.... you wanking cunt!

[MTMT]

There is no greater pleasure than pissing Bill off...

Except, of course, when his mother sucks me off... that is a much greater pleasure...

[AWA Staff]

She figured it's the least she could do since your mom took such good care of me in bed

[Kevin Kash]

rvd didnt turn heel either dont forget

[AWA Staff]

it is funny though that Punk is the ONLY one to win the match twice but...either way, he went heel cause of it so.....ha!

[SLAM II]

i enjoyed RAW. i think they should keep it in the boundries of past superstars, bring in some of those fucking legends, ah what the fuck do i know?

im a huge fan of sheamus already, i like the orton vs. kofi, because i like orton....have to say he is my favorite since his debute....no lie! if it wasnt for luke having the orton as his base id so have jacked that bitch months ago. but yeah....next week is midgit week.

lil people wibble-wabble but they dont fall down!

[Anthony Jordan]

Raw had actual WRESTLING! Maybe that's why it was good. *hint, hint, Vince*

Punk looked trimmer and is getting in better shape. Maybe a taste of the gold has motivated him to work harder. Hope that hard work will be rewarded. Sadly, if RAW is any case, it won't. Cena hulked up and won. The only good part was that Cena used an amped up version of his finisher to win. Makes Punk look a little better considering Cena felt the AA (not Arn Anderson) wasn't enough.

DX vs. Jerishow in a TLC match should be awesome! Loved how Jericho destroyed their catchphrase moment. I'd love to see Jericho play the devil on the shoulder of DX and drive a wedge in between them. Btw, DX vs. the Hart Dynasty was pretty good. Could be a good feud if one team ever won the titles.

How about we slowly break up DX and have HHH/HBK at Mania? We all know it'd be a great match and make the PPV worth watching. I don't see either getting a title shot. Also, no one's ever suggested this, turn HBK heel.

Ventura was solid. He knew how to work a crowd and was credible. He and Vince weren't extremely fluid behind the table, but bickered enough to make it worthwhile. I bet Luke marked out for that. He's probably in a coma, which is why he hasn't been on the site.

Can we call MVP a flop on RAW and send him to SmackDown? He might get a fair shake there.

Hated Orton squashing Bourne unless it leads to something (however, Orton/Kofi is the obvious route they're going). I really thought Legacy would be broken up by now, but it looks to be a ways off.

They're announcing Kofi as being from Africa now? That's all well and good, but he still sports Jamaican theme music, color scheme and Titantron. Also, his last name is billed as "Kingston." I guess he's from Jamaica by way of Ghana *shrugs*

[AWA Staff]

Yeah, at first they thought it was cool to have the Jamaican accent and everything....

Then they decided he was getting a HUGE following and probably thought it'd be hard to understand him clearly....so they made him ditch the accent.


That's my thought on the Kofi/Jamaica unsolved mystery

[theegomjw]

Kofi Ghana? does not have the right ring to it. just 'Kofi' would do.

anyway, yes AJ i marked huge for Ventura/McMahon at the table. McMahon was really good i thought and they worked well together. Ventura reminded me of how great announcing used to be and the way it added to the product. And a HEEL announcer is always a great way to go. I know everything has to evolve, but Ventura is old school and sometimes that is best (unlike Undertaker trying to climb the ropes and land on his crippled legs). If Ventura was to team with JR and they were allowed to go 'off script' then it would actually be a reason i would tune in to what the programming.

Oh, and i loved Ventura's heel swerve at the end of the show. Much like Dusty Rhodes, it was great. Would also be great to have Ventura back to 'mentor' Shamus up until his first WWE title attempt...and subsequent loss to Cena.

[Anthony Jordan]

Had Ventura and McMahon just tried to call the battle royal, then it would have sucked. Ventura just used it to take shots at Vince, which was funny. I did like how Vince said Orton would win, then when Orton got tossed, said, "Orton's eliminated! Just like I called it!"

[theegomjw]

calling a match is great, but having an announcer who is actually entertaining is even better. Ventura can call matches well, but it is the interaction with the other announcers that makes the difference.

much like when JBL was at the table, he was a character and it didnot take anything away from the talent in the ring.

[Kevin Kash]

especially ownimg michael cole with the infamous ''SHUT UP!'' line