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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on Feb 28, 2010 16:07:49 GMT -4
Some will be happy, some will be upset. It happens every month. I always stand true that in order for a champion to lose a title, they need to clearly be defeated. If things are just too close, the match is awarded to the champion. I felt both champions were not beat. Was it incredibly close? Yes. As close as when I had to judge AJ vs. James Lucas. Either way, the PPV is posted, and I stand by my decisions. Before anyone gets too into the PPV thoughts, you should all read Anarchy. It will either be up early (tonight) or at it's regular time (tomorrow)....either way, before looking too much into the PPV, read Anarchy  All in all though, besides people being happy and people being pissed, how did you like the PPV in general? I think it was pretty good, had a lot of action, and helped with future feuds. |
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Post by Gregory "Ripper" Kennedy on Feb 28, 2010 16:18:19 GMT -4
I have no problems with the decisions reached.
Plus MJ Vs AJ Vs Lucius will be awesome (That's right im calling it)
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Post by theegomjw on Feb 28, 2010 18:05:49 GMT -4
triple threat? could happen although i think MJ/AJ have more to give one on one right now, but maybe a 3rd character who has very little connection to either of them could be an interesting twist.
either way, i finally got to have a great feud with AJ which is really pleasing, but i do not see it being over.
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Post by Gregory "Ripper" Kennedy on Feb 28, 2010 19:19:01 GMT -4
I can see it working just because Lucius is this factor that has no histoty with either side. That and the Dr. Phil RP's would be priceless for MJ/AJ
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Post by Anthony Jordan on Feb 28, 2010 20:30:12 GMT -4
Am I disappointed? Yes. I always try to win, but I said I wanted to have a great feud with someone I really respected and have been working with basically my whole career. Luke earns a marquee win that should really silence his own judgments about whether or not he belongs. Had he been going full bore with MJ back in BWA and CWA, I really believe he would have won the Undisputed World Title. His sinister heel, when he's really pushing being sick and evil, is every bit as good as Reese and Croc in that respect.
I also said I wanted Timmy to give us a conclusive ending (no double counts, DQs or no contests), and he delivered. That does please me. Kudos on the hard call and legit ending.
I do lol at the fact that I haven't won a match I've given my all in since probably CWA. I have become the HBK of the fed!
I'll be the first to say I don't want MJ vs. Bird vs. AJ. Dylan and I do want a proper feud (ours in 2006 was something we didn't care to bother with), and I hope it happens months down the line. I did all that I could. There's no SL reason for MJ and AJ to fight again, and we're better than some deus ex machina device. If Dylan is up for it (and I can't speak for him there), MJ/Bird is the route to go. Really, I'd be happy not to have AJ in any matches for a month or two, and I'll just RP and discover where I want to take him. I completely changed my character (a la Jericho), and I'm very proud to have gotten him over and look like a viable contender. It reaffirmed a feeling of greatness that I had begun to doubt. Now I have to realize I can't stretch this out much more than I have. I used my best material for that week. If Luke and I have another rematch soon, it'll only worsen the feud because I don't feel it can get any better. I'd rather have a brilliant, epic two weeks than a very good month plus. Maybe MJ and AJ renew rivalries in a few months. Luke, you said we should get selfish for this feud, take the main event and go crazy. We did, and we proved that we have nothing to prove. Let's be happy with that. Besides, MJ vs. Bird showcases two of my best friends in this place who really haven't gotten the attention they deserved over their careers.
Now with Kristin turning, AJ's basically Peter Parker in Spider-Man 2. Will he go emo-douchy like Spider-Man 3. It doesn't make much difference because I'm totally clueless about where I was going with AJ win or lose. I think he'll bounce around a lot (get better and relapse). He can't be 100% intensity all the time.
BTW, totally called the triple threat.
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Post by Gregory "Ripper" Kennedy on Feb 28, 2010 20:49:39 GMT -4
If you have AJ dancing down the street with black emo hair and pointing at people I will kick you in the crotch.
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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on Feb 28, 2010 20:52:58 GMT -4
I tried very hard to make everyone look good and I tried very hard to make people happy with things. Certain people were feeling like they weren't going anyplace with their character....so I tried really hard to make some storylines happen with people. (Kash vs. Carey, Morgan and Slam II vs. New Connection for titles, MJ vs. Lucius vs. maybe AJ, although after reading this, it sounds like AJ doesn't want another chance)....but all in all, I tried. Glad so far people seem alright with the outcomes. I'm going to work on Anarchy tonight. I'm excited to write it. I'm also going to set matches up early in the month for Grudgement Day IV....it's a huge PPV, and I'd love for the month to be filled with badass storylines.
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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on Feb 28, 2010 22:02:11 GMT -4
Alright....Anarchy is posted...a lot happened....and set up stuff for the future....let me know what you think....if you've got any questions, let me know!
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Post by Anthony Jordan on Mar 1, 2010 0:54:31 GMT -4
I don't want to taint the hard work that went into my last feud by having a lame sequel. I really think there's nowhere left to go. Also, it's just plain greedy to weasel my way back in after going 1-3 against the New Connection. No one deserves infinite chances without having to work back up to that spot and earn the chance. Give someone else a chance to shine.
In short:
1) Part 2 will be worse than part 1, and I love my work too much to taint it.
2) Being stagnant at the top kills feds. We need to let AWA grow.
As for Anarchy, solid show. The heel faction is powerful and should having a good celebratory showing. Build them up to aid any face against them. NC looks downright nWo right now (original nWo, not the watered down retreads). Really hope Sean gets back on the ball. Since I may not be funny all the time, I hope he maintains a level of interest.
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Post by James Lucas on Mar 1, 2010 1:25:13 GMT -4
incredible ppv, incredible anarchy. lucius, you are the great. gave me one hell of a feud. i enjoyed it. jake if you ever get more time to really dedicate yourself i would love to feud again. SEAN, not greg, i can not wait to blow the "fake internet" roof off this place with you. i think this will be great.
i should add that i am very glad i am new connection.
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Post by Lucius Bird on Mar 1, 2010 5:41:07 GMT -4
To be honest, I don't see how the aftermath makes much sense. Having a character buried at the PPV in a Hardcore Title match, then magically elevated to the next month's main event for a World Title shot... yeah, still trying to get my head around that one. That is going to take a little while to sink in.
AJ, you can make this situation work for you. Not having to RP with, or against, Luke until the lead-up to the PPV will allow you to replenish and assemble some new material. But my position is untenable - I just lost a Hardcore Title match, and never had to earn a World Title shot. How do you put yourself over as a legitimate and worthy competitor in that situation? Short answer: you can't, long answer: you really can't.
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Post by theegomjw on Mar 1, 2010 6:27:25 GMT -4
sometimes i just want to...
nope, ill refrain.
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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on Mar 1, 2010 8:19:33 GMT -4
To be honest, I don't see how the aftermath makes much sense. Having a character buried at the PPV in a Hardcore Title match, then magically elevated to the next month's main event for a World Title shot... yeah, still trying to get my head around that one. That is going to take a little while to sink in. AJ, you can make this situation work for you. Not having to RP with, or against, Luke until the lead-up to the PPV will allow you to replenish and assemble some new material. But my position is untenable - I just lost a Hardcore Title match, and never had to earn a World Title shot. How do you put yourself over as a legitimate and worthy competitor in that situation? Short answer: you can't, long answer: you really can't. 1. Dylan, I would never expect you of all people to make negative comments on the board. I would imagine you would PM me and talk to me. 2. How in the hell were you buried? Did you lose? Sure you did, but not because you did terrible. You did very well. Made it very tough to call, but you, just like everyone know the deal around here....if the match is too close to call, tie goes to the champion. You and Lucas both kicked ass....just like AJ and MJ both kicked ass. 3. I thought it was explained pretty well at Anarchy. Timothy Draven gave The New Connection the power of choosing who they wanted to face. Obviously James Lucas has to face Ripper for the hardcore title....but they decided who to put the tag titles on the line against and MJ was able to select who he wanted to face....so he selected Lucius and AJ....because he wants to break AJ down even more....and because he wants to get Lucius for that pin he has over him. How does that not make any sense? 4. AJ, from what I heard (from MJ) win or lose, you two were continuing your feud into another month. Thats why the screw job ending. Had you defeated MJ, it would have been a clean win so MJ could be pissed and want revenge....if MJ won, massive screw job so AJ wants revenge. 5. I've never in my e-fed life, ever met two people who were so negative....WHEN GIVEN MAIN EVENT SHOTS! THAT makes ZERO sense to me. There are A LOT of guys here who would love a chance. Lucius did an awesome job with James Lucas....Ripper gets a title shot, so I moved Lucius up to face MJ, along with AJ....thinking the three of you could really kick ass in the main event. The choice is up to you guys. I was trying to be nice and give opportunity and help this fed....if you guys don't want it, thats fine, you can have other matches....but I won't just hand them back out when you guys are "ready" for them. It doesn't work that way. I'm not trying to be a dick, but this is fucked up. Like I said, I was trying to be nice, and instead of people looking at it as nice, I'm looked at as a bad guy. I sure as hell don't get it. |
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Post by Anthony Jordan on Mar 1, 2010 8:59:15 GMT -4
I'm starting to see why Dylan and I get along so well. We have these concrete visions on what should happen and really aren't flexible on them when it comes to our art. Traits of a perfectionist really. Perhaps Bird would have had a bigger gripe if MJ had fucked him over in the cage. Don't know. I understand confusion about being elevated after losing. "If I can't beat a hardcore champ, how do I stand a chance against a world champ?" That being said, a lot of guys were elevated after losing in IC Title matches to me, and they did win the title (Whitey and Kyle being the main ones). I hope Dylan gets his mojo working and can get with Luke on something catchy to make heel vs heel work.
I just feel burnt out (even if I won, I'd probably still ask myself "What the fuck do I do now?" I really painted myself in a corner no matter how Broken Hearts played out. I made the mistake of going so crazy that no payoff justified what I put in. I might have had AJ forfeit the title). I can't see my character getting any more inspired to win a match than he was. Material-wise, it'd be hard to keep that intensity up for a month. I likely won't win the title, and that doesn't matter. However, if MJ/AJ drops to average from awesome in terms of a feud, I'll be upset. Luke and I wanted to have an epic and important feud, and if we drag it through the mud, we lose that. I'm trying to talk to Luke and see if something good's out there.
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Post by Lucius Bird on Mar 1, 2010 9:15:32 GMT -4
The reason I posted on the board, as opposed to firing off a PM, is that I really don't think you have done anything wrong/stupid/whatever. AJ may feel a bit aggrieved (I won't put words in his mouth), but that is certainly not where I stand.
Buried was too strong a word. But Lucius was steamrolled after failing to win the HC Title (the result didn't fuss me) and mockingly thrown the World Title bone. What I meant about the position being untenable is that, throughout the month, Lucius will be seen as the guy who "shouldn't be there."
You seem to think I'm feeling angry, cheated or something like that - that's not how it is. I am totally fine with what you've chalked up, more than a little flattered, and will work with it. I just don't really feel like I have done a whole lot to justify the quick elevation, if you can understand that whole paying your dues vibe.
Hopefully, that is rectified via AJ showing up for the match and an honest contest taking place. Will have to see where he stands.
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All in all though, besides people being happy and people being pissed, how did you like the PPV in general? I think it was pretty good, had a lot of action, and helped with future feuds.
