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Post by MTMT on May 22, 2011 12:00:11 GMT -4
I'm in a hurry so I'll make it fast.
"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship John Cena (c) vs. The Miz Cena will never lose an I Quit match. Though it would make an amazing story if he did. But it won't happen here. Cena retains.
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian Orton retains, sadly. But I do think that this means big things are happening for Christian.
Kiss My Foot Match Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole (Jerry Lawler will give up his WWE Hall of Fame ring to Michael Cole in the event of a loss.) I hope this means that it's over. I've said Lawler would win the last two PPVs and I was wrong... but now if Cole wins, I'll be shocked. Especially with no Swagger on his side. Lawler will win, and hopefully they can end this storyline- it's well past it's welcome.
WWE Intercontinental Championship Match Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson Tough call. I think Jackson may take it- they seem to be pushing him.
WWE Tag Team Championship Match Big Show and Kane (c) vs. CM Punk and Mason Ryan I'll go with Nexus. Kane/Show don't need it... This could help Nexus out a ton. Granted, they've misused Punk so much in the past few months, so I wouldn't be shocked if he lost... but I'll go with him winning here.
WWE Divas Championship Match Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly Really, the winner will be Kharma. Kelly Kelly wins the match, Kharma finally pummels her.
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth Truth will win. With his heel turn, he needs the momentum.
Sin Cara vs. Chavo Guerrero This could be the match of the night, if they're given enough time. Sin Cara FTW.
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Post by theegomjw on May 22, 2011 17:00:52 GMT -4
firstly... Cody Rhodes should be booked.
secondly... i do not want to see Punk as a tag champion, BUT, if it means Punk on both shows then i have nothing to complain about really. better than having Big Show or Kane crossing shows.
thirdly... i do NOT want Christian to win, i want him to slowly turn heel and slowly build to a bigger win at summerfestarama!
fourthly... Cena/Miz is sooooooo boring.
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Post by Anthony Jordan on May 22, 2011 20:14:06 GMT -4
"I Quit" Match for the WWE Championship John Cena (c) vs. The Miz I like the feud, but I'm a Miz mark. Unless they pull a Foley, Cena won't lose.
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian Christian has it won, but the ref misses it. Orton comes back and retains a few minutes later. The heel turn gains momentum.
Kiss My Foot Match Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole Lawler's never won this kind of match (lost to Bret in the 90s), but he pops his cherry here. Hopefully this feud is over.
WWE Intercontinental Championship Match Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson I hope Jackson wins, so just Rhodes can take it from him.
WWE Tag Team Championship Match Big Show and Kane (c) vs. CM Punk and Mason Ryan Nexus. Punk on both shows would rock. He might be the best all around performer in the company right now.
WWE Divas Championship Match Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly "Really, the winner will be Kharma. Kelly Kelly wins the match, Kharma finally pummels her." +1
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth "Truth will win. With his heel turn, he needs the momentum." +1
Sin Cara vs. Chavo Guerrero "This could be the match of the night, if they're given enough time. Sin Cara FTW." +1
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Post by theegomjw on May 22, 2011 22:41:13 GMT -4
C-Man/Orton was excellent, brilliant, perfect. And Christians actions at the end, the push, the after thought and then the hand shake. The slow burner is surely lit! If Miz/Cena can even touch this match ill er, ill chant LETS GO CENA! C-Man/Orton should have been the main event.
Punk is not a tag team champion, and yes thats a shame because he should be on both shows, he IS the best performer in the company.
no Kharma...epic fail
HITMAN A MANIA! great use of the man, better than him beating Miz for the US title i reckon! Nice full circle story with Bret helping Lawler. The fans got what they have wanted to see, Cole getting bitched out.
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Post by Anthony Jordan on May 22, 2011 22:52:46 GMT -4
Wish I had watched Christian/Orton. Sounded epic. The company, when it wants to, can handle an awesome heel turn (see: Punk and Jericho). Can't wait to see where they go from here. Smackdown is really the only show worth watching.
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Post by Anthony Jordan on May 22, 2011 23:03:55 GMT -4
Super Cena found a way. I'm shocked...
Sucks that Miz will be pushed down the card, but Cena needs to make Del Rio job out.
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Post by theegomjw on May 22, 2011 23:09:22 GMT -4
bugger.
im watching it on play back, i knew Cena was going to win, but now i know he 'has' won, im switching off
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Post by MTMT on May 22, 2011 23:11:32 GMT -4
I was 5/8... Not bad.
Orton/Christian was without question the match of the night. Incredible. I like Orton's new submission hold... kind of a reverse Walls of Jericho. He's been adding more to his move list lately (Although it did piss Kurt Angle off...). But a great match nevertheless. I'd still rather see Christian with the title, but now I'm confident that he'll eventually get it again as a heel, with a decent run.
Seeing Bret Hart was a nice surprise. The mention of the Lawler/Hart Kiss My Foot match was subtle on RAW, but great foreshadowing. This match was finally booked how it should have been- King just kicking ass and humiliating Cole. Hopefully this ends the feud... maybe Cole can "quit" Raw and stay on Smackdown.
Sin Cara/Chavo was a great match, as expected.
I wonder if, before all these PPVs, Vince buys CM Punk dinner... (fill in the rest).
Miz and Cena wasn't really a match. It was just, "Let's beat Cena up for 30 minutes so he can do his Super-Cena thing." That being said, this was surprisingly fun. I loved Miz throughout. I especially loved how he kept giving Cena the chance to quit BEFORE striking- "I'm going to use this kendo stick/belt/chair unless you say you quit. Save yourself the pain." But him going up to the young fan- PRICELESS!!! "TELL YOUR HERO TO QUIT!" "NEVER!!" BRILLIANT! Man, that was amazing. I kind of wish they had stuck with the false ending... much like the Rock/Mankind match back in 99. But I guess this will lead to Alex Riley getting fired as Miz's lackey, so... okay. It's not like we were expecting Miz to win here, anyway.
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Post by theegomjw on May 22, 2011 23:17:25 GMT -4
ok, i carried on watching and now im almost crying.
yes Miz is a heel, but a few belt whips, 5 seconds of the no pressure bullshit stf and he quits?
Cena is by far, BY FAR booked strong than i ever saw Hogan booked.
I quick pinfall after the big boot and leg drop is far less damaging to a character than a fucking submission carried out in this fashion.
Miz was great, but this match did nothing for him, he was not booked strong, only to loss. he was booked weak, very very weak, and then lost.
very sad
Cena is such a star maker!
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Post by Anthony Jordan on May 23, 2011 6:17:36 GMT -4
What makes Cena worse than Hogan is that awful STF he uses. It doesn't look like it hurts, so his opponents look like shit for tapping out. At least holds like the Ankle Lock, Crossface, Sharpshooter, etc. made you think it hurt the guy in it (gave you grounds for some suspension of disbelief). Unless you're homophobic, Cena bending your leg and laying on top of you isn't much of anything. If it was old school Goldust doing it, it might have gotten over.
I understand wanting to keep Cena strong for his match with the Rock, but if those two can't get the match over on their own accord, then neither are the stars they think they are. That would never happen with the Rock, anyway. Some people really hate him, but he never had long World Title reigns and he never held anyone back the way Cena. If anything he oversold everything. Dwayne was confident and knew losing wouldn't hurt him. Vince knew it, too. Apparently he doesn't have that same kind of confidence in Cena.
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Post by theegomjw on May 23, 2011 7:10:36 GMT -4
thats the point, there is clearly a lack of confidence in Cena, even a super face does not need to be booked like this, but they must be concerned that if they do not MAKE him the be all and end all of the wwe, the fans will start to look past him.
Oh, the Randy Savage tribute sucked arse, they really need to have a kick arse video ready to go for Raw. one thing wwe does better than anyone else is production, and Savage deserves the very best.
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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on May 23, 2011 8:42:24 GMT -4
thats the point, there is clearly a lack of confidence in Cena, even a super face does not need to be booked like this, but they must be concerned that if they do not MAKE him the be all and end all of the wwe, the fans will start to look past him. Oh, the Randy Savage tribute sucked arse, they really need to have a kick arse video ready to go for Raw. one thing wwe does better than anyone else is production, and Savage deserves the very best. So Luke, what you're saying is John Cena is to the WWE, what Anthony Jordan is to the AWA/BWA/CWA? Joking aside, I don't know if Vince doesn't have faith in Cena taking a loss, or if it's the fact that A LOT of little kids LOVE John Cena . . . and if John Cena loses, these kids "lose" . . . I'll use one of my childhood best friends as an example . . . back in the day, he was a die hard Stone Cold fan . . . when Stone Cold was the champion, he was the biggest WWE/F fan ever . . . when Stone Cold would lose the title, he would stop watching wrestling until I told him that Stone Cold was going to be wrestling for the belt . . . then he would watch again. When Stone Cold went out with an injury, the kid never watched wrestling. When Stone Cold came back from injury, my buddy was glued to the television. Once Stone Cold retired, my friend stopped watching wrestling completely. Now, I know that not all kids are like this . . . but a lot are . . . and maybe thats why Vince makes Cena so dominant. Let's face it, while TNA isn't as good as it should be, one thing that I admire is that they don't mainly focus on the kids . . . they have an older fan base . . . WWE is slowly moving toward the attitude-ish style again, but it's a long ways from being there . . . for now, it's still very much all about the kids. When I watch wrestling now, I feel like it's very similar to wrestling in the late 80's/early 90's . . . anyone else get that feeling?
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Post by theegomjw on May 23, 2011 9:30:10 GMT -4
the only way wwe will move away from the PG era is if sponsors actual seek out the wwe that want to appeal to an older audience. i do think think the wwe is looking at changing any time soon.
all i can say is thankfully we have found what could be a feud of the year in Christian and Orton. they are simply perfect as a match, even as 'face vs face', image what can happen when (yeah, im putting my faith in the wwe that they do not bottle this one) Christian turns heel.
Right now, id say Christian is up with CM Punk as the best in the company, when was the last time Christian actually took part in a bad match? Even his series with Mark Henry in the old/new ECW ranged from decent to pretty good. Christian has quietly become someone the wwe can not do without, i just hope to all hope that they give him time to really settle into a heel role, like they did with Jericho.
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Post by Anthony Jordan on May 24, 2011 7:12:22 GMT -4
I thought Christian was getting stale before Edge retired, but this has reinvigorated him. He'll give it his best.
Regarding Cena I think Vince is going back to what he knows. His biggest superface was Hogan, and he held the belt forever. I think Vince wants to squeeze every penny out of Cena that he can before something changes. He's free to do that, but I disagree with it. Even Hogan eventually had to turn, Cena will, too. Vince is putting it off as best he can, but when the time comes, will he do what's right?
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Post by AWA CEO: Mr. Timothy Draven on May 25, 2011 8:43:12 GMT -4
I would LOVE a Cena heel turn . . . I think I would actually like him . . . I think he could be really good at it!
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